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Dr Abdulrehman


Through his speaking, Dr. Abdulrehman helps with improving global partnerships for businesses by better understanding cultural differences. He engages with leaders to be more effective communicators with international audiences, and helps them better understand the nuances of cross-cultural etiquette, specific to the Middle East, India, and East Africa. As a skilled and motivating speaker, covering a broad range of topics on cultural diversity and inclusion, Rehman leaves his audiences with greater insight and applicable actions that work practically and powerfully to ignite meaningful change.


His TEDx talk, viewed thousands of times, can be found here.



lisa Schmidt, M.Ed., PCC


A former speechwriter, on-stage performer and seasoned speaker and facilitator, lisa is an opinionated (in a good way) yet highly relatable speaker on topics of leadership and change, and why training often gets in the way of what is really needed to transform workplace culture in organizations. A writer and performer at heart, lisa's on-stage presence is energetic, direct and funny. 


We speak together as a team on Diversity and Inclusion, opening up our conversations to others to show what talking about topics that provoke anxiety and discomfort sound like, and are additionally available as guests on podcasts, panels, learning events and conferences. 

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Conversations that create change


Creating anti-racist workplace cultures that embody inclusive practices requires self-reflective, psychological work, combined with open dialogue, to shift what people think, feel and choose to do. The mix of our skills as a clinical and consulting psychologist (Rehman), and an OD consultant and executive coach (lisa), enables us to provide two complementary lenses into effective change: individual and collective. 


We are far more than two facilitators spelling each other off, prompting people to talk in a group, or two talking heads offering change management frameworks and "Inclusion tips."  


What differentiates us is in how we engage, and the unique ways we create the needed safety and relatability to step into the hard conversations that shift thinking, feeling and behaviour. We do not train, mentor or give advice; we engage at the intersection of identity, awareness and choice.


Our approach is to blend our skills, experience, rapport, and very human vulnerability, to craft environments where self-reflection, dialogue and courage come together to build anti-racist mindsets, relationships, teams, departments and ultimately organizations—all the places where what is true and best in us all can find expression and belonging. 


We work with leadership teams, boards, professional groups, non-profits, corporations large and small—anyone, really, who knows there is more to Diversity and Inclusion work that training programs, hiring more People of Colour or messages of support on corporate websites.


We are passionate about change, comfortable with challenge and available to help. 

Where we've worked together...

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